I had a fascinating chat with a fellow Australian marketer last Friday afternoon.
His name’s Robert, and he’s one of the minds behind the yearly 30 Day Challenge that we hear as being associated to Ed Dale.
We had a great chat about SEO, site structures, affiliate marketing and more.
I thought I’d share with you just one of the little snippets that were mentioned because it contains a great lesson…
As I mentioned in my last niche research post, it’s generally the nature of our beast that some sites you create are winners while many are losers.
One of the keys to success then is being able to quickly abort the losers and identify the winners.
While I’ve never been one for stringent rules, and generally just used my own judgment to decide when it was time to move on with a site, Robert reminded me of the proper way to go about this.
Put simply, he goes about things like this:
1. He picks some longtail keywords in a certain niche, that gets extremely low competition, but decent search volume.
2. He sets up his site, optimizes for those keywords, and tries to get quick rankings for the very long tail term.
3. He doesn’t do anything else, doesn’t start building links or submitting articles, just waits while the little bit of SE traffic trickles in.
4. He waits until the main money page of his site has had 200 visits. If it’s had at least 1 sale in 200 visits, he decides the site is worth pursuing. If not, he either a) tries another affiliate program or b) slaps up some Adsense and moves on to another site.
If it does convert at over half a percent, he knows its a site that will be able to make some money. After that, he starts building links to obtain long term rankings, expands to other key phrases in his niche, and so on.
Here’s what’s great about this strategy:
First, he doesn’t put any more effort into any site than he needs to. He waits to see if the site will be profitable BEFORE committing to any long term effort on it.
Next, he knows that when he DOES commit effort, it will pay off – because he knows prior to doing so that the affiliate program converts for that keyword and it can only make more money with more traffic.
Finally, his decision about what to do with a site is based solely on information, not emotion. It’s like trading stocks, and knowing when to buy or sell – it doesn’t matter that you’ve spent months developing a site (that’s BEFORE reading this post) and you feel emotional attachment to it… if the information is showing that it’s not going to convert and make you money, abandon that thing – “churn and burn baby!” (it’s been a while since I heard those words in a positive light!)
I know that this post both arouses as well as answers many questions, but hey, we’ve got time!

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Great post!
It sounds rather like the approach in Bum Marketing at least this bit does:
(1) He picks some longtail keywords in a certain niche, that gets extremely low competition, but decent search volume.
Two obvious questions Andrew
What are the numbers here, maybe 1000 to 10,000 pages in google and maybe 100 in wordtracker??
(2) This means on page optimisation?
I love the next bit “wait until 200 visits”.
I remember Ed Dale recently said in a video that since he is such a poor copywriter 0.5 % was his usual conversion rate.
And it’s my bail out rate for CTR in Adwords – I’ll pause a campaign as the CTR approaches 0.5%
Sounds like Robert is using a standard website Andrew but we would use these ideas for WP blogs that we use for the nmoc method?
Alex
For keywords research try SeoDigger.com
It allows you to input a site URL and it will then show you the keywords that site has that will rank it among the top 20 in Google. It returns quite a few good answers and allows you to see the Wordtracker and Overture results as well.
One of the neat features of this site is that you can sort by the position, wordtracker ranking, overture ranking and also the most recent keyword request.
If we really want to test out if the niche is profitable, we can use PPC too. Just use direct linking and see whether it sells.
But i was wondering if 200 is a good no. Sometimes there are these “blank” streak, where you don’t get any sales. I guess 500 will be a good no. to stop.
Andrew, I was wondering if 1% conversion for any product is a good conversion in your opinion?